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 Post subject: The Age: Greens to push $40bn fast-rail link to Sydney
PostPosted: Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:23 pm 
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It appears the Melbourne-Sydney VFT is on the agenda again. Technically this isn't Smart Passengers related as we focus on Melbourne public transport, but this is a fairly significant project so it might be of interest.

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IT IS the dream that will not die: Melbourne to Sydney by train in four hours, instead of the current 11½ hours.

Today, Greens Leader Bob Brown will launch a campaign at Southern Cross Station for a major concept study into a high-speed rail link between Australia's two biggest cities, which his office has costed at $40 billion.

This follows the launch in January of a ''pre-feasibility'' study by the Cooperative Research Centre for Rail Innovation, which examined a plan to cover the 900-kilometre Sydney-Melbourne route by train at an average 280km/h.

Mr Brown said a high-speed rail link was needed to provide ''fast, reliable transport for 75 per cent of our population … [And it] would also generate thousands of jobs and promote regional development.''

He called on the Rudd government to fund a $10 million one-year planning study.

Several attempts have been made at getting a Melbourne-Sydney fast-rail project started. The last attempt, involving an initial Sydney-Canberra link, failed in 2000 when the Howard government baulked at its $4.5 billion price tag.

With no train capable of speeds over 250km/h, Australia lags the world.

A total of 1737 high-speed trains currently operate on dozens of different routes, mostly in Europe and Asia, says the International Union of Railways.

Advocates of a high-speed rail link point out that the Melbourne-to-Sydney air corridor is the world's third busiest, with 121 daily flights. The rail alternative is a half-day journey with a top speed of 130km/h.

David George, head of the industry and federally funded Cooperative Research Centre for Rail Innovation, said high-speed rail would be competitive with air on the route. ''If you travel by plane, by the time you get out to the airport and pick up your luggage and then do it all in reverse at the other end, it's probably four hours.''

He said high-speed rail was being built in many countries including India and China. ''It's not just the preserve of First World countries any more.''

Japan's first Shinkansen line between Tokyo and Osaka opened in 1964. It now carries 360,000 people a day at up to 300km/h. France's TGV network has been running since 1981.

Based on European construction costs of between $A19 million and $A48 million per kilometre, a Sydney-Melbourne link could cost up to $43 billion.

The poll as at right now stands at 94% in favour of building it.

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My own personal opinion is that this won't get off the ground.

There's no detail in the article so I don't know what the Greens are proposing, but basically there's three options.

First is the one proposed by the VFT consortium back in 1989 or so, to go out through Gippsland, up through Canberra and then to Sydney. IIRC that was favoured by the consortium because it meant new alignments which meant they could keep the curves gentle and run at a consistent high speed. But it meant cutting a path through a whole lot of national parks, which I can't see the Greens doing. So that one's out.

Second is to use the existing Melbourne-Sydney rail line and upgrade it for VFT speeds. This would mean changing a lot of the curves which currently limit the speed of trains. Again a lot of bush land would have to be cut through. The real trouble is that it would be very easy to cut corners in the budget by leaving in a few of the more difficult curves - but that would kill the value of the service by increasing the journey time.

Third is to build the AIRE, the proposed Melbourne-Parkes-Toowoomba-Gladstone line. Same problem, a lot of the land is already available in the form of closed branch lines, but the curves would kill it unless we invade a slab of bush.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't want the Greens (or any political party for that matter) to build new rail infrastructure. I want it built by someone with expertise in transport and in rail technology, so we get the very best possible infrastructure for our money.

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